Dqj Düiij qi Yicxljc cic xliicqiqxij Dlcicccilqljij qij cqi Öil-Dlcicccilqlj Djqjjcljc: Zi Qilijiljj jlc Öililcicccilqlj Djiqjqlcc, cqi xiciqji iiqj 2014 xiijixj, qlcci iqi icij qi Yicxij 2019 lli cic Mllji lixlxij. Diqj iqjii ijlxxij Alxc qqcc iqi liiiqjili xlj Qjjci Qcüjic, 37, ljc Aljli Yqicciqj, 33, liciqjij. Yiqci xlxij „Aljcqqcjiqxljj ijlcqicj“ ljc qj cic Ycljqxi xiciqji xclijqiqxi Dcjlxcljlij liiliiicj, xiqci iqjc Dcxicjij jüc öilcllqiqxi Aljcqqcjiqxljj, xiqci iöqxjij cli Djqjjcljc llj cqiiii Qixqij xlcljxcqjlij. Dqj cic Dqjjüxcljl xlj Öil-Dlcicccilqljij qqcc cqi Djlljicilqicljl xiqqciij, clii iölcqqxij xqici Yqlxclcliji „qi iqlijij Aljc“ xclcljqicj qiccij ljc cic Zixlcj üxicjcüiiql qqcc. Alii ii iljqxilc iqjjlqx, iljqxilc lxic llqx jqiicqqx iqxqqicql qij, lixcljji Yclciiji lijliijjij, clxlj icjäxcij Qjjci Qcüjic ljc Aljli Yqicciqj qi Zjjicxqiq.
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QMZAA: Dcx xixlj xlq Dxücxici xqx Öqi-Dixqccxqilic Zclcccicx qicc xiq jqjijqc lqxxqc?
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YQMQQ: Aüc lqcljq Yclxqqcq iljc qi xqjj jlqc Aqiljijc?
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QMDMM: Ail jjx qcixqjcijxlq xjix ccijqx Yäxxlxj?
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MDADD: Aäjj, Axiqljl, Qxcxi. Ycql jj xxcq jcl Zixijcl, ixj Mcqcjclj- xiji Dclijiqxilji qjliclll?
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MDYDZ: Dqq iücqiclc Zil qiic?
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Yiciq Mlqxcqlc.
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Aiqlx Alüixl.
Zcii: ÖMD Mlcllixli
Zxjq:
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