Ukrainer aus Amberg in Angst um Freunde und Familie

Irina Huber aus Dnjepropetrowsk und Robert Rojzman aus Czernowitz, die beide in Amberg leben, blicken voller Sorge auf ihre Heimat, die Ukraine, und befürchten das Schlimmste. Aus ihnen spricht die pure Verzweiflung.

von Thomas Kosarew

Irina Huber aus Dnjepropetrowsk und Robert Rojzman aus Czernowitz blicken voller Sorge auf ihre Heimat, die Ukraine. Dort fliehen Menschen aus der Hauptstadt.

Bild: Emilio Morenatti/AP/dpa

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