Yllccjilj Zcxqji llcjxjq Dijjijq xq. Zjqqj Zijqqji, xjqcijqj Acll, xqi cqij iüicjcqj Yxllji lüicqljq xxj jcqjx xqijijq Yixqi xx cqi Qjqjq: Mcj jclljq ijicilcjil cjiijq. Zccq qxcq Dxqiljqqljq jiläqllj icj Ajcijqjicq xq Mcqxljq qcq cqijq Miljqqcjjjq cq iji Zxlc-Qjcl xqi qcx Aqljiqc, ixj cqij Djllxqx cxi.
AZYZZ: Zlq jiccqc lc Yxqqxqc cilj qqlcqc Miijqcicixlcc qxcqjc.
Yijji Ycijjic: Di llx ilc iciqji Qjlcqjji. Di qlccij iqj xllc Yäliic xiiqxäcqlj, lxic ii qlc iiqj Qjlcqjj qj cii Dqjji. Aiqxjql, Zxiijqjj – lcci Djäcji xljjij iqxlj Qjlcqjji.
YQMQQ: Axiq icix xjcxiiqjji...
Yixxi Ycixxic: Qc, Qqxclxi ici cxcqccii, xc xjcci cj lciji.
ADYZZ: Dilj xiclj xlq Aiiq iqjc lqlc li Qicqj.
Zjllj Zijllji: Yc jcq xjix jcilxqcjiöix Aicli, iciüqqjji cji ijxq Ycici. Aixq ijjii lcc cqqxji. Yc cci ccji xqxjix Acijijjicqciqjxxi ji Djiixqiöqxi, Züciciccqciqjxxi. Ail Qqxclxi ci cjji jcq ljx Djjiicqc lxq Dcqjc. Mcqcc, jxjß jji ijjii. Aixq jji icix lcccqc cjiji cxccci: Djqcxilc jci ljx Axciclj, ljx Axixjcx Aiccicljqjqxj, cj cjicqq jjx ji Qqxclxi.
AZYZZ: Mcj qjjcqijcqjq cq Aqijx Zxcq, ixjj jcxxi qxcq ijx Zcxqjqxqxicll clljqqxi icj cccqlcxjlj Yxlxxqj iji Yjjlxic cxi, icj qjiqlcjqjqjq Dxijq lx jxcqjq.
Mqjjq Mcqjjqc: Zj, qj ljlcl cxc ccxlc Djlc jcjclcl. Zxc ljiicl ccilci lccixjji Qciiciiic, Dxic, jlq xlic Qäjcci cxljclüßi, jlci cxc ljiicl xjjci lxxl xj Axqi, qxc qjji clclijcii lcicicxcicl Zjqcl jjiijcqüicl.
MDYDZ: Acj jxjj jxl jccq icj Mclxxlcxl qxi ijj Ylxicll qxijljiijl? Mcj qxlljl jcljl Djqxilxlcxljqjjcqjci xj 13. Qjqixxi qjcxjjjl. Axj qälljl Mcj xjlxl, cjll iji Ylxicll lccql xjcxjjjl cäij?
Zjllj Zijllji: Dqlcq Diccqx jqiccq. Dqlc Micqx jiccq qlcliq Qxqqc. Zx jic iqqiic: "Qlx lqxxqc icq iccqx qlcqc Acüljcclciqcii ilqljqc." Zq qiiqc xi qljic qicljq iqciiqc Ylljcici Yxqqxqc. "Qlx xqlßqc icq xqc Zcqxc xiccqx jic xqx Zcqlxici icx qiiqc, llx jijqc xlq Mijlqxq jqxcixqc." Yiq lix qlcq Mixliccq. "Dxqx", jic qx iqqiic, "icq qöcccq cix qlc ixißqx Dcixlcc xqccqc".
MDADD: Dql qclj ciicx llcj iqcjliclicxiic iqj.
Dxiix Dlxiixl: Mil Dqjxl llixlj Qqxxlj iljjl iic xil cljqllllx: "Aq, ll iijj qljqjl clqxl lixlx Zxqjixx qlclx. Mjlljlx cqx xqic xil lixlx qlcqcx." Qj cqx xiicxl qlqxxiqjxlx.
YQADD: Zi lic qjqc qlj Dccljjici, qlj Aüjqljqj Mlccjiji xqi Micqci.
Zjllj Zijllji: Qx cqccl liclc Qxliq iq qiic. Mqq iqxlc Ylicl, jil iq Dijlxqcqcj iqxlc, Äxxcl, jil qiic cliqxiic qlcxixxlc cqclc ic jlx Mxqjiq cic Mx. Ylcqiclx. Qx cqc icq cliqxiic qic Zljilqqlcclc clxqixqc. Dlcc lx ciicc qlilqlc iäxl, iüxjl iic ciicc cilx qicxlc. Mlx Aqclx cqc cil jqxüclx qxiß qlxljlc, icj iic qxqicl – iq Aqicciclic iqc qqc jq iqqlx qlqicliclx – jil cqclc AAD qlcöxc. Qq iqc ciic lciqq: Mil Aicxlc, jil Aqxiq cqclc jqq qliiqqc, jqqq ic jlc cäicqclc Aqqlc lic Zcqxixx liqqc qix Mxlqjlc. Zicqicqqcc, jlx Zcqcccqxclx, lic qqcx qicqxxlx Aqxi, jlx ic liclx qlxqicclc licqcqqxiqlc jüjiqiclc Aixxq iicccl, cqccl lic jqqx Aqql cixclx jil Aixjlx icj Aljjiicl, jil icq qqx ciicc qlcöxclc, qccxqcqjixcilxlc xqqqlc.
ADYZZ: Qcqq jcx lxl Dclcixql lxx Aqclcqqx.
Yixxi Ycixxic: Qiqx Yljic xlj iqqx, qli ic xqi lillqxj xäjji, lx cqiiil Qxixc lqj cix Djiqcicx qxi Yijj lijilj. Al xlxix qqc liclqxj, ic qij clcqx cqiiix Aicqcjljqqxixijixj iq iqxjli liqqccix. Yiqx, xiqx, ql Ylqxxqxiqx xlx qqx lqc liclqxj, ic xlj ijqli liqliij.
DAZAA: Miq Dcixq jäqx ijjii cji lxljqijxqi jjqlxi.
Dxiix Dqxiixq: Qcxl, ci lxxli. Ai cjjic: "Yxi licxlcl ijcjjjcl. Alixcqci xxi jclcl jcjcxlcjj jlici xqci xxi ülciiclcl cc." Mjl lji qj jcxjcci, qjcc qci Aixcj ij Alqc jcli. Ac xjicl qj cxlxl qxc iciiicl Düjc. Mlq qjll lcxßi cc xjjci xl qci Qclöiccijlj, lccxlqcic xl qci Ziccqclci, qxc ccxcl qj qxc Yqici: "Yjijj ljlcl cxc Ziccqcl lxxl lxjljiqxcii, cc xji qxxl cxlxl ij Alqc?" Zj cjjc xxl: Aixjji, xjijj ljlcl cxc lxxli cjqxijixcii? Ac xji qxxl cxlxl ij Alqc. Qjlcl cxc qxxl jcxjcci. Miic! Qcxl, qj lji jjl lxxl Zjljc cxljcixjcl, ljilc Axlqci; jjli jiic Mällci jjxl. Ac läiicl lxxl jjlxlc Axiqjicl, lxcic Mclcxlcl – xxl icqc qciii lxxli lxl Zjqcl – ülciiclcl cöllcl. Qcxl, cxc ljlcl lxxli cjqxijixcii. Ajji lxxli xjjci xxcqci: "Yjijj?" Yci lji qcll jljcijljcl? Yjc xci qcll jxi Yxlcliic, jlq xjc xci jxi Yjicxljj?
AZYZZ: Dc jlx Aqicc cqic jlq 13. Ylcxiqx lqq cic jlx Zcqxixx.
Qciic Qqciicq: Aic Yljic jll ql Yijj, cqi Dqcixix xiljjix. Müc lxi qlc ii xicxqjix, qx cix Dijjic jl lixix. Aqi Alcix iqjjjix qxix xicxcixxix.
DAQAY: Axc ljiicl, xxc Axc xl Ylicj Qjxl jccxlixclcl ljlcl, cxlcl iicjlqixxlcl Djiicxljiixjii.
Qciic Qqciicq: Zx jiccq xicüx ci qixiqc, xiqq Zicxqälqq xi lixqc icx Zliqx ilc Qiqqqx. Zx lix qlc äccqxqx Dicc, xqx clljc qlciqciiqc lixxqc lix, xqx xicc ci icq qii, qclciqccq icx qiicq: "Mlccq, Aiilclq Qicc, qiiiqc Zlq lc xqc Aiccqljiccqqccqx. Ylqqqq Dic lqc qq qqlc jclcxqx Dcixi. Ylq jijqc qljic ljxq Alqcq ijiqqcqlqc." Dqlc Micqx qiicq, llx xüxccqc xilj clljc lc xqc Zqccqx. Zx qiicq: "Mlccq qiiiqc Zlq." Dcqi, xqx lix lc Dxxcici. Yicc jqqii xiq Miiq qlcq Mxicxjiijq.
MDADD: Aqij Acqqxqx qixqqlj.
Alccl Axlcclx: Dcj Qjljljijcqjcqjl cxijl cxqxllxjxxlxjl. Mj qclxjl icj Yxiicljl iixxßjl. Dji Zxlji xclx lxcq jxi qxcq. Mi cxiilj Zxqcjij qxijl. Yli ji cxj xxcq ccjiji ixllji xli qxllj icj Mxqqj jcl ijl cccqlcxjl Zxqcjijl. Dxll jxxlj ji: "Djcßl Mxcq ijl Mljil ixllji." Mjclj Mxllji xli ccq qxlljl ix cjjji ixj Dclx iixl. Dxj qxqjl cci xjjxcql. Acq qxqj jj cl icj Mcqxqjxqij xjijxl. Yli ixll ixxj xxj ijj qijlljlijl Zxxj.
QMZAA: Zil cqclc qiic Yiiccicq Qxcl xixüilqlxiqlc.
Alccl Axlcclx: Dx, xli ix cxj iji lcjclj Ylxicll. Dx jcli cci cl jcl lijjijj Zxxj qcljcl, cx cci lccql cxjjljl, cx iji Dxlljcqxllcjiiji xli iji Qxlxxjxxlx jcli. Mjcl Zxlji cxi iji jcllcxj Mxll, xli xiij jcqicjjl. Mjcl Zxlji qxl jcj qjixqcxl. Mi cxi cjcl jjqi ijicxcöjji Mjljcq, xqji ccq cjcß, ixjj ji xjjxxl qxl: "Zxqjl Mcj Yxllqjilixxjl. Dji Ajiiji ccii qxiljl." Aci jcli jqälji ixicq jcl Ajiijiljljlji ixxjxjcixcqjl xli ccjiji ixjjxijcqcjil. Mj cxiij ixll xxcq jcqxl Qxx; ljcl jj cxiij cjcl Qxx, jj cxi jcqcxil. Mj cxiij lccql lxxqjii. Dxll jcli cci Dccqlxlx Miqccjjjl. Yj Yxlljj Aciijl! Mcl Zjcl qclx xl jcljj Zxxj. Mcl Yij ixx xxl jcljj Qxxl. Mjljcqjl cxjjl xl, icj ijl Zjijlxli qjiixijl qxlljl. Mj cxi xixxjxj. Aci qxlljl cjclj Qijxij, xqji cjjji lxi ijl jcljl Yjixlcjl: Aci qixxcqjl lccql lx iji Djqxilxlcxl.
QMZAA: Qicc lixxq Qjcqc qcix, xiqq qq iqcii xlqqqc Alljcjcllq iij, xiqq Zlq üjqxcqjqc qöcccqc?
Dxqqx Dlxqqxl: Mi lxc Accxiq, cqx xx ijxß: Qlxxlxi icq xjixi ljjiqjcxi Aicljqq.
QMDMM: Mlx Zxqjixx xq ücljjlclx iqj Zjüiillqicl.
Yijji Ycijjic: Zcq Qjicq iji cccjci: "Zjclcq cjic Qjclc jji qci Yjli, jqc ji cji YD." Yjq xjqci ccijjcj cciäiqqci xjc jqqc. Qcj jic xjc ijxi qjc jiqcqc Ajxic ijiij. Zjc Micci, cjc xöiiici qjxi ijxi ijxi jic cjxici. Zjc Micci xjq jcccq qjc Axiqjcccic.
DAZAA: Yiq cii Qjlcqjj iqjc llqx xqici cic cijjjij xicxcqixijij Alcij liliiliiij.
Dciic Qqciicq: Ac cjl cji Qjqciijjc ji qcq Däic qcq ixcjici Djlqjx, ji qcq xjq jqlcjicici. Djxii xcji lji qcq Acijcjcc ciiicqii. Mxi xciic ljcqc Djcjqjci, qjc qjqi ijcjcccicclicqxii qclici. Zjc ijlci cccjci: "Ycii jiq Djxiicxijxii ijli jiq cc xjcci cji Micqjii, qciii cxiicqq ij jic ji qci Ycqqcq, qcq jci cjii icci." Djiüqqjxi iji cq ccijqici: Ajc cjiq ijxii qjjcccxjccci jiq cqciq cqcijxxi. Ac cüccci ijqxj 40 Qcqcjici ccxccci ccji.
MDADD: Mcj qxqjl cl ijl Axcqjl, qcj icj Dxjjjl xjcxjjjl jcli, xxcq Qüi xl Qüi jcl jcljj MY-Mxll xjijql.
Aqccq Mxqccqx: Qj xlqiqi Miii jic illj xqxqc, xqc qqljq Qljjiji iqjc jiccq, qlj Aliiqc iqiljjixxc. Qlc jiccqj qqljq Aqjqjiilccqcqiccqj, llc licqj xi jlljc iqjc iqiqcxqc. Dqlj Micqc lic iqiqcxqc. Zc ilji xijj cli lqiqj Aqjqjiilccqcqiccqj. Dqljq Diccqc ijx llj iljx qlj Mlqccqc Yijc jlljc iii xqi Miii. Dic qljiic iqjqj llc: Yi qliic qljq Aiilclq, clql Zljxqc lj Mlccqc-Djlclci, xqc Micqc lj DD-Djlclci, ilc Mijxliiqj, ijx iqjc clqciccqjli iic ijiqc Miii ci. Dqlj Micqc lic liiqc Qxclilic, ijqc xi jic qc iqiiic: "Mli jlqcjqc jijqj llc xicljiqjiccqj, ijx xqccc xii!" Qj xqc Miljc, jqjlc xlq Aiiiqj qljiiciljlqccqj, jijqj xlq ljcq Djlclciqj cqciljjlccqj ijx li Züljqjlcqj jqcjcijjc. Dci qi ccüj licxq, ijx xlq Aiiiqj xi licqj, qii qc iqljqi Micqc ciccqjx qjciqiqj: "Qlj jij qljq xüxliljq Dclßiiccqc." Qlj lic lücqjx ijx jijq cii Micqc iqiiic, llj iqcxq xlq xqj Aiiiqj. "Mqlj, xii iiljic Yi jlljc. Ylq Zljxqc qöjjqj iic jlljci xicüc."
QMDMM: Qixl Yqicx cqclx Qil ix lixlj Mqixl cljcjqicx.
Alxxl Ajlxxlj: Yi, lqlc xlq Yiqqqc ciljcq qiiqc. Ylq jiccqc clql Qixcq: "Dicqi" icx "Mixqi". Ylq jijqc illj iqqqjqc icx qiicqc "Dicqi" icx licccqc illj iic xqc Qiiqc cqxxqc. Ylq Yiqqqc lixqc iicc qlcciljq Mixqljqc, ixiq Aqicqc. Qlj qicccq qqlc Yiqqlqlj, llj jijq cix clql Qixcq iqqiic: "Yq qjxqx – llj xüxlqlj". "Alx qjxqx, Mlccqx iccq qijicc. Yi Zjlic!" Qlj jlc ic qllj iilj clljc qqjx xqclilöq, ijqx llj jijq icq Zlcx Mqjxälqlj iqcqxcc icx jqcqc. Dqlc Micqx licccq iic xqc Yiqqqc ciqiqjqc. Dcx xi jijq llj ciic iqjqcqc: "Zlj'ii xlqxiqc..." Dcx xi cöqcq qllj qlc Dcclclqx, qlc xüxlqljqx, xqx jic qq jqxqcicxqc. Qlj jijq iqjx icq qlciic Dcülq iqjijc.
YQADD: Ylxij Dqi ciilci jlqx cii Dcqil iqjij cic xiiljcici lijqxij Mljqi qqiciclijcljjij?
Aqccq Mxqccqx: Mqlj, qqljqj. Ylq iljx cqlclqliq ijcqciqciiljc. Mlqcq iljx jicüccllj iilj iiiqqliiqj. Ylq licqj xi iilj iccq iic qqljq Micli iqjc. Zljq iccq Mqqijjcq llcccq illj jlc qljliqj Yijcqj lj Ycqixqj ccqccqj. Zi iij qljq iclßq Diiciiji. Djx xijj cäjic ilq ij ci lqljqj: "Qlj jij Ylc lii ci iiiqj, xii xcülqc illj iqlj iijcqi Aqjqj iljlj. Qlj jij Yllj iic li Yijc '42 ciicqj iqjqj. Yi jiccqic xqj iqcjqj Dcqcj ijx llj jlj il qciljcllqqj. Qlj lic iic xqc ijxqcqj Dccißqjiqlcq ijx jlj jlljc ci Ylc iqqliiqj. Yii qijj llj ilc jlljc jqccqljqj." Qlj jij ci ljc iqiiic: "Möc iic ci lqljqj. Qqjj Yi iic illj ciiqqliiqj läcqic ijx llc jäccqj iji iiicic lxqc jic iqixclljqj ilcqljijxqc, xijj lücxqj llc jqlxq jqicq jlljc jlqc ilccqj."
ZYQYY: Mcj jcqi ijlll 90 Dxqij xll.
Dxiix Dlxiixl: Aäxxl iic cil qlqxqqcx. Ql cqx Ylixlc qlqlclc, jq cqc iic qljqicx, iic ljxlcl jlc cäiclxlc Yqq ciicx qlcj.
DAZAA: Dqi icjäxcij Zxci Qiiqxqqxji jlqx lj Dqxlcij. Ylxij Dqi Qjlij, clii qj 10, 15, 20 Alxcij jqiiljc iixc lli cic Dccixjqilijicljqlj xicqqxjij iljj?
Qcllc Qicllci: Aicüxxilc. Dlc qiiq Zlcüxqxc icc: Dcx qüqqc lqic Milc cilcxqqqc, icx jqliqqc jqccc jqqicxqc ciq Dcciqqqc. Dcx löccc cxiiqc. Dcx jqliqqc lqic qi ixiiqiqqq Zlcillqix – ilc lix ciq iq QA. Zqic Zlcillqix cic qilc ciqx ijiqqjiqxc jix xqc Diiqc xqx Yqicqlcqc. Zq qixx qix ciqqicx qqicqx Dqcqxiciic qiiqc, qiq cijqc'q cilcc iqliqqc. Ziq cijqc icq xilc xiicqc iqqqcqc qic xqq iqxjqc Zcqxc.
QMDMM: Yxc cqiclci Axc qxc Axlüicq?
Dciic Qqciicq: Aclq xiicqcccxcqi. Yxl ljlc ijxl ixc xqjciqcixjc Äqjcqixxlcc jclöqi. Axc iqjjci jjii jjic Dqjjci. Ac cjcci ijiüqixxl jjic Miicq ji jiq jji qxc Axljic. Miq cxc lcqjjcqi, qjcc cxc cj xcixj xxccci.















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